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COMMITTEE MEETINGS
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BRITISH CANOE UNION WILD WATER
RACING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING
18th March 2000 HOPPER LANE HOTEL, YORKSHIRE
Attendance
Present at the meeting were Peter Schofield (Chair), Chris Bolton, Melissa
Simons, Dave Belbin, Andy Goodsell, John Embrey, Jamie Christie, Stuart
Smith, Mike Mason, Jon Royle, Paul Anderson.
Apologies were received from Graham Froggett and Martin Streeter.
Minutes of the last meeting and matters arising
The minutes were agreed as a true report of the last meeting (proposed
Jon Royle, seconded John Embrey).
DB reported that he had not received formal notification of the funding
for the year, but had no reason to believe the budget for the Senior Team
would not be £28,000, as per the last minutes.
The only outstanding work with regard to the calendar was the finalising
of the finish point of the Tryweryn Sprint, as it depended on a slalom
taking place at the same time. It might be either above or below the Ski-Jump.
Action: Competition subcommittee
Regional and Club Championships
The original proposal had been changed to allow Combined Services to count
as the preferred region for Services entries. Clubs would be taken from
paddlers entry cards, and regions from the club, unless the paddler
informed the ranking list compiler otherwise.
Shuttle Services at races No action had yet been taken on this, but the
Competition subcommittee would think further about it. It was noted that
a shuttle service might involve minibuses and trailers, or a more informal
arrangement.
Action: Competition subcommittee
Junior World Championships 2002
No bids had been submitted to the ICF by the deadline. The ICF
had suggested informally that a budget of £15,000 might be adequate,
rather than the original proposal of £75-100,000. The WCA had been
very supportive, and the Sports Council might be more prepared to cover
the full cost at £15,000, and would therefore be approached again.
PS and CB would also approach the ICF to make a bid conditional upon a
tight budget. It was agreed that it would probably be worth paying someone
to organise the event. In terms of dates, the end of July would be best
with regard to the water at the Tryweryn. Although August would be best
for television, it was agreed that the chances of TV coverage were so
low that we should not plan for this.
Action: PS/CB
Subcommittee structure and development plan
A development plan had to be submitted to the BCU in order to obtain
funding. It was agreed to adopt the draft plan currently on the website
as the formal development plan.
It was noted that Joe Walmsley had offered, in principle, to supply Double
Dutch paddles and boats at reduced cost, in certain circumstances and
conditions, to assist development of WWR. It was agreed that this was
of interest.
Action: Development s/c to contact JW to develop idea further
The Development subcommittee would be chaired by Paul Anderson in future.
Howard Blackman had been appointed as BCU Regional Development Officer
in the Midlands, and was keen to help with development of WWR in the area.
It was agreed that it would be helpful to flag up to the subcommittee
chairs (John Embrey Competition, Andy Goodsell Excellence
and Paul Anderson Development) any actions arising from Exec meetings.
It was noted that the subcommittee chairs may coopt people from outside
the Exec onto the subcommittees.
Action: MS to flag up s/c actions to chairs; s/c chairs to coopt as necessary;
MS to track achievements of s/cs over the year with the chairs.
Wavehoppers
The Wavehoppers were scattered around the country at clubs. Currently
MS was acting as co-ordinator, but in the long-term, it would make more
sense for this role to sit with the Development s/c.
Action: MS to draw up a list of the whereabouts of the Wavehoppers and
circulate for comment
Team issues
Paul Anderson was accepted as Junior Coach (proposed Chris Bolton, seconded
Jon Royle).
A letter had been received from Rob Pumphrey querying the potential use
of the percentages table published in the yearbook for selection purposes.
It was noted that the percentages were guidelines to assist in the event
of the selectors needing to use discretion in making a selection. The
purpose was to ensure that the Exec could explain selection policy to
the BCU and Sports Council if necessary. The aim of selection was to send
people to Championships who would be within 10% of the winner, and it
was noted that this would not necessarily be achieved by selecting those
within 5% of the top British paddler in that class.
Action: MS to write to Rob Pumphrey in reply to his email, to explain
the above
It was noted that all paddlers wishing to be considered for selection
should have informed AG by now.
The BCU Child Protection Policy was circulated for comment. Some pages
were missing, but it was agreed to adopt it for WWR, subject to any amendments
once it had been read in full by the Exec members.
Action: PS to circulate the missing text and Exec members to send any
amendments to MS asap
Competition issues
It was agreed that CB would produce an informal ranking list for sprint
events for 2000, based on the best 3 races (of 5 or 6). The informal ranking
list for classic events would be based on the best 5 races (of 9 or 10).
Action: CB to produce ranking lists
It was noted that the issue of separate sprint and classic series should
be debated at the AGM. However, since the calendar is close to final by
November, any radical changes which involved changing the calendar should
not be introduced until 2002.
Action: Competition s/c to consider motion for AGM
Communications issues
The entry card had been redesigned following comments from Exec members,
to allow more space in boxes for names etc. It needed to be printed asap,
to allow for use this season.
Action: CB to circulate revised card; Exec members to respond asap
Three potential logo designs were shown, and it was agreed that none
were ideal, but that two were usable, for different purposes.
Action: Comments to be sent to Mike Steele (copied to MS) by the weekend;
Mike S to send revised logo to AG and GF asap for printing on team gear.
It would be possible to buy an internet domain name for around £50,
as opposed to the previous potential cost of £200. It was agreed
to look into the possibilities: wwr.org.uk would be ideal.
Action: CB to investigate
Future meetings
The next meeting would be held at Nottingham on 10th June (Trent Div
B and Nottingham marathon). The following meeting would be on 23rd September
in Nottingham (Trent Div A and Paddlefest weekend). Both these meetings
would be at Nottingham Kayak Club, subject to confirmation nearer the
time. The AGM was on 4th November in Llangollen.
Any other business
Promotion from Div B to Div A It was noted that recently, some of those
promoted did not seem to be ready to be in Div A (notably Susan Templeton
and Jamie Oughton). It was agreed that further thought was needed about
the promotion system, and that in the meantime, promotion should be recommended
by organisers but only conferred by the ranking list compiler. The current
numbers would be taken as guidelines. In the meantime, Susan Templeton
and Jamie Oughton would be contacted and told that they could continue
to paddle in Div B.
Action: Competition s/c to consider; JE to contact ST and JO
DB noted that there had been no invoices received from Canolfan Tryweryn
with respect to last years races. When these were received, payment
would be made.
MS noted that the start at the Washburn Sprint event had been rather chaotic,
and the eddy at the bridge very difficult to make, especially for C2s.
Action: Competition s/c to discuss with organisers before any more Washburn
sprints organised
Post meeting note JE has been in touch with Washburn committee,
and applauded their proposals to block the left hand bridge arch, and
to create a pool between the bridge and the main weir. He has also suggested
some pruning of trees on the lower part of the river.
CB noted that the results from Grandtully and Thistlebrig had been delayed
due to some inconsistencies in start times. The organiser had been away,
and would need to be contacted on return. It was noted that there were
issues about accuracy of timing which would need to be put into the organisers
handbook when it is revised.
Action: CB to contact Kelso Riddell; Competition s/c to revisit timing
accuracy when revising organisers handbook.
It was noted that the new timing equipment had been bought, and was used
at the Washburn. There was no clock at the finish, as this would have
cost £1000.
Action: AG to look into options for a board at the finish to show finish
times
Selection committees The Junior Selection Committee would consist of
MS (Chair), PA, GF, JC and AG. It would meet at the Awe, in the café
at the finish, and the paddlers would be informed the following Wednesday.
The Senior Selection Committee would consist of PS (Chair), AG, CB, Martin
S, and James Morris, and would meet at the Tryweryn on 13th May. The paddlers
would be informed immediately after the meeting.
There would be an ICF judges exam at the Senior World Championships. Anyone
going to the Championships was invited to sit the exam. Applications to
do so should be with AG by 1 April.
PS reported back on BCU matters. He said that Martin Streeter would attend
the BCUs coaching review on behalf of WWR. The annual report of
the BCU Board was circulated. The BCU AGM had voted in favour of federalisation,
and the ECA would therefore be set up. Exec meeting business would need
to split into British and English matters for the future.
Action: MS to ensure future agendas and minutes reflect English/British
split
CB raised a concern on behalf of Alistair Bayliss about the BCU, whose
admin staff do not seem to have much information about WWR.
Action: PS to discuss with BCU
MM suggested the idea of a picture calendar for WWR for 2001.
Action: PS to discuss with Mike Steele
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BRITISH CANOE UNION WILD WATER RACING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING
10th June 2000 at Nottingham Kayak Club, Nottingham
Attendance
Present at the meeting were Peter Schofield (Chair), Chris Bolton, Melissa
Simons, Dave Belbin, John Embrey, and Jon Royle.
Apologies were received from Graham Froggett, Andy Goodsell, Jamie Christie,
Stuart Smith, Mike Mason, Paul Anderson and Martin Streeter.
Minutes of the last meeting and matters arising
The minutes, subject to a minor amendment, previously agreed in correspondence,
were agreed as a true report of the last meeting (proposed John Embrey,
seconded Dave Belbin).
Junior World Championships 2002 No bids had been submitted to the ICF.
The Exec bid was with UK Sport, and had been since Easter. PS would follow
this up, since if UK Sport refused, it would be necessary to apply to
Sport for Wales. If support was received, PS would go to the Exec and
to the Sports Management Committee, to ask for a small amount of funding
for an event manager (£2500 each). Canolfan Tryweryn were supportive
and had suggested that we could make a presentation to local commercial
interests, in conjunction with their own presentation on development of
Tryweryn. Mike Steele was already working on plans for fundraising, and
it had been suggested that the local Assembly member be approached to
act as non-executive chairman of the organising committee.
Action: PS
Entry card This had been revised, taking into account comments from JR
and JC.
Action: CB to arrange printing and distribution. New cards will need to
be sent to organisers so that people entering on old cards can be asked
to sign the declaration.
Domain name www.wwr.org.uk has already been registered. It was agreed
to register www.wildwater.org.uk. There might be future difficulties in
taking the domain name if the site moved to a different provider, but
it was not clear if this would be the case. It was agreed to register
www.wildwater.org.uk anyway.
Action: CB
Logo This was finalised and being used. Mike Steele had an electronic
copy, which he should send to CB (for the website) and MS (for a letterhead).
AG had some printed on stickers, and should be asked to get some more.
Action: Mike Steele, AG
Timing equipment In the absence of AG, discussion on this was deferred
to the next meeting.
Action: MS to put on agenda for next meeting
BCU staff PS had brought up at the Sport Management Committee the lack
of knowledge of BCU staff of canoeing in general and wild water racing
in particular. The BCU explained that these staff were administrative
staff and not expected to know anything about canoeing. It was pointed
out that BCU should in that case avoid putting such people in a position
where they would respond to questions about canoeing. It was agreed that
MS and CB would update an information leaflet and send it to the BCU for
them to use as a handout in case of inquiries. MS would also inform canoeing
magazines of the contact point for wild water racing.
Action: MS/CB
Excellence issues
There had been some discussion on the website about the selection policy.
It would be necessary to carry out a formal review of the selection process
for this year, covering the selection criteria, understanding of these
within the sport, other selection systems including those used by both
other branches of canoeing and other sports, the concept of discretion,
and the process of communicating the selection criteria and the results
of selection. The review should consider the issues of preselection, concessions
made to selection criteria, eg for U23s, and feedback from paddlers and
the Sports Council, via John Anderson. The review should be carried out
by the Exec, based on a paper produced by the Excellence s/c, which would
consider all the above, and provide a range of options for selection next
year. The paper would be circulated at least a week in advance of the
next Exec meeting.
Action: MS to solicit paddlers views (via CB - website)
AG/Excellence s/c to prepare review/options paper
Competition issues
Organisers handbook Subject to minor amendments the draft and summary
checklist circulated by MS were agreed.
Action: MS to send to all organisers
Calendar It was agreed that access for the Tryweryn races for this year
had not been acceptable. It might be better to ask for just two weekends,
and try to get better access for both, rather than three with less access.
It would be ideal to have all-day access to the bottom site (Tyn-y-Cornel
to Bala) and access to the top site late afternoon on Saturday, when a
sprint event might be held. It would be worth looking at the potential
to hold the two runs of a sprint race on a different section of the river,
with for example, a Graveyard sprint followed by section lower down the
river. This would permit use of a short access slot on the top site. A
race from Tyn-y-Cornel, finishing above Bala Mill, was considered possible
as a Div A race, and might improve attendance.. The success or not of
the Junior Worlds bid would impact on the ideal timing, but April/May
would probably be ideal for selection anyway. Two Washburn events would
be held, one in spring and one autumn.
Action: JE to discuss with Canolfan Tryweryn
Tryweryn 24/25 June This was planned as a Div B and RNKA race and a Junior
Training / Coaching Course weekend, although the Junior Worlds team would
not be attending. Dave Gibson from RNKA was planning to cancel as he only
had access from 8.30-10am each day, which was not sufficient. JE would
speak to AG about the training camp, so that Canolfan Tryweryn could be
informed if all events were cancelled.
Action: JE to speak to AG, DG and Canolfan Tryweryn
Guided racing It was agreed that this was, in principle, a good idea,
as it would help introduce people to the sport and to new rivers. At Div
Bs, any guiding would be allowed, including in races, and at Div As, guiding
would only be allowed in practice runs. This would avoid the need for
formal rules on the operation of the scheme. It would be necessary to
check the legal position before working out a way to put people in touch
with potential guides.
Action: MS send revised proposal to BCU to check legal aspects
Helmets There is now a helmets policy for 2002, recommending that everyone
wears CE approved helmets. Having this rule may increase the duty of care
on organisers. Papers were tabled from the BCU on the implementation of
and guidelines for safe practice at recreational canoeing events.
Action: MS to circulate guidelines to organisers and duty of care paper
to Exec
Promotion into Div A The ideas expressed in CBs paper were endorsed.
The points required for promotion into Div A should be considered by the
Competition subcommittee. There would be no demotions from Div A based
on results, except that the Exec would reserve the right to demote people
who were a danger at Div A races
Action: Competition s/c to produce motion for AGM
Other ideas The Competition s/c should consider the issues of separate
sprint and classic series, guided racing, shuttles at races (in conjunction
with the Development s/c). It was agreed that it would be important to
co-opt a non-Exec member to help out, or another Exec member to Chair
the s/c, since all the Exec members on the s/c already had too much on.
In particular JE did not have time to chair the s/c and manage the Calendar.
Action: Competition s/c to consider co-opting someone, and to come up
with motions for AGM as appropriate
Communications issues
Picture calendar It was agreed that this might be a good idea, as it
might raise money. Mike Steele should be asked to look into possibilities
for photos and advertising.
Action: PS to ask Mike Steele to look into possibilities for a picture
calendar
Yearbook Many of these were missing in the post. Those for surnames P-Z
should be reposted, since it seemed that these were the majority of those
missing.
Action: MS
Paddlefest Mike Steele should be asked to put together a stand for Paddlefest
2000.
Action: PS to speak to Mike Steele
Future meetings
The next meeting would be held at Nottingham on 23rd September (Trent
Div A and Paddlefest weekend), at Nottingham Kayak Club, subject to confirmation
nearer the time. It would consider Selection, the calendar and the AGM
agenda. The AGM would be held on 4th November in Llangollen.
Action: MS to book room for AGM in Llangollen
Any other business
There were no items of any other business.
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BRITISH CANOE UNION WILD WATER RACING EXECUTIVE
COMMITTEE MEETING
23rd SEPTEMBER 2000 NOTTINGHAM KAYAK CLUB, NOTTINGHAM
Attendance
Present at the meeting were Peter Schofield (Chair), Chris Bolton, Melissa
Simons, Dave Belbin, John Embrey, Jamie Christie, Mike Mason, Paul Anderson
and Jon Royle.
Apologies were received from Graham Froggett, Andy Goodsell, Stuart Smith,
and Martin Streeter.
Minutes of the last meeting and matters arising
The minutes were agreed as a true report of the last meeting (proposed
Peter Schofield, seconded Chris Bolton).
Junior World Championships 2002
The bid was with the Welsh Sports Council. PS had met Richard
Lee and Sport Wales about a month ago, and provided more information on
the benefit of the Worlds to wild water racing in Wales. The result of
the bid is expected in early or mid October. Canolfan Tryweryn had told
PS that the water had been arranged.
Entry card
No further progress had been made
Action: CB to send to Mike Mason for next weekend
Timing equipment
MS reported that AG had been unable to find any equipment to display
finish times for less than £1000. It was noted that such equipment
would be needed for the Junior Worlds, and had therefore been included
in the bid.
Guided racing
No further progress had been made.
Action: MS to send documentation to BCU lawyers
Excellence issues
It had been agreed that a review of selection would be carried
out at this meeting, and AG and CB had previously circulated papers for
discussion.
Process PS noted that the process of selection was as important as the
actual decision in the effect that it had on paddlers. It was agreed that
there should be a system or process to help and support paddlers through
adverse decisions.
Selection in other canoesports and other countries MS and DB outlined
selection systems in sprint, marathon and slalom, and commented that there
were two main issues to note: selection had taken place at international
events to ensure standards and there had been a perception in the sport
that the selection committee had made their choice well in advance of
the selection events. It was noted that other countries, especially France
and Germany, regularly selected their teams for championships much later
than GBR, and this year only the week before the Worlds.
Discretion It was agreed that some discretionary places were necessary
to allow for illness, injury etc. affecting performance at the selection
race. It was further agreed that the purpose of discretion was to allow
selection of an athlete who would reasonably be expected to achieve selection
as one of the "first past the post" places in the selection
race, based on their results so far that year, including international
results, if appropriate, but had failed to produce the necessary result
at the selection event for some reason.
Communication It was agreed that the results of selection should not,
as a general rule, be announced on the day of the selection committee
meeting. Instead, the outcome of the selection committee should be a clear
decision about who was to speak to whom and by when, since someone should
speak to those who had not been selected first, and ensure that they were
given adequate support in understanding the decision. Selection decisions
should either be communicated in writing or reinforced in that way, and
if the decision were communicated face-to-face, encouraging a coach or
friend/parent to be present should also be considered. It would also be
necessary to ensure that any changes in published selection policy were
communicated to all athletes going for selection in advance of the selection
race. It was further agreed that where possible, selection forms should
be completed electronically.
Action: JR to simplify senior selection form, and PA junior one
Standards It was necessary to ensure that all athletes selected were of
an adequate standard, currently defined as having the potential to be
within 10% of the winner of the championship in question. It had not been
possible to do this in a scientific way. It was therefore agreed that
decisions as to whether an athlete was of this standard should be made
by the relevant selection committee.
Selection criteria for 2001 junior Pre-World Championships It
was agreed that junior selection for 2001 should take place over all the
Classic races in the Spring series up to a defined cut-off date (these
races to be listed by name in the yearbook for clarity), with the selection
committee considering each paddlers top three results. All places
would be by discretion. Paddlers with any questions should speak to their
class coach, who should also be talking to them throughout the spring
series about their results comparative to others aiming to be selected.
Selection criteria for 2001 senior Pre-World Championships and
European Championships It was agreed that senior selection should be held
at a single race, with the first three past the post selected by right.
The fourth place (for Europeans) and fourth, fifth and sixth places (for
Pre-Worlds) would be by discretion, based on results in the spring series,
with additional weighting on the selection race. Discretion for the Pre-Worlds
would also consider development potential.
Selection criteria for 2001 senior World Cup races It was agreed
that senior selection should be held at two races, one Sprint and one
Classic, and that the first three from each race, plus up to three more
by discretion, to a maximum of six places, would be selected. Discretion
would also consider development potential.
Competition issues
Calendar JE tabled a first draft calendar.
Action: All to send any comments to JE asap
Ross Pearton had suggested that the deciding event for the National Championship
Series should not be the British Open, as this was too early in the season.
It was agreed that as the British Open had originally been used when it
was the last event in the series, it would make sense to leave the deciding
event until later in the season. The Dee in November would be an appropriate
race.
Action: JE to ensure yearbook reflects this change
Future meetings
The next meeting would be held before the AGM on 4th November in Llangollen.
Action: MS to book room for AGM in Llangollen and circulate AGM agenda
and motions for comment in advance
Any other business
Chris Bolton informed the meeting that he would be resigning from the
Exec at the AGM. PS expressed the regrets of the whole committee at this
news, and thanked both Chris and Jill for all the work they had done for
wild water racing over the years.
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